01/2018 Hamburger Scenarios update

To fulfill a scenario a player has to meet all deck building requirements during the whole game, and additionally the winning requirements for a certain scenario at the end of a game. There are 16 wizard scenarios and 6 ringwraith scenarios...

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01/2018 Hamburger Scenarios update

Post by Darksatin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:22 pm

Hello,
After several tournaments and before Lure 2018, I think it is time to make a little update of the scenario rules. In this first part, the changes are only minor or clarifications, so I think they should not need to be discussed, but you can of course make comments…
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* I.1 General:
You can have a 30 card sideboard deck.

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* I.4 Optional rules:
Before each game, each player makes a 2 dice-roll. The player with the highest roll can choose his Wizard/Ringwraith (so, he put 3 copies of his Avatar into his deck, showing them to his opponent) or he can choose to play first (or not), but before the character draft. If necessary, the other player must choose another Wizard/Ringwraith (he discards the copies of the same Avatar).

If the player with the highest roll had not chosen a Wizard/Ringwraith, the other player can do it. If the player with the highest roll had chosen a Wizard/Ringwraith, the other player can choose to play first (or not). (from a Belgian variant)
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* German Promos cards :

German Promos cards are tournament legal (in their original version, not the DC ones).
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* Card Ruling :

Neither so Ancient Neither so Potent gives items MP.

* If The One Ring is destroyed (hero success), or stored at Barad-dûr (minion success), the game ends immediately. Nevertheless, the other player must make his corruption checks (to verify the scenario conditions at the end of the game).
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5) Alliance of Free Peoples :
DR: none.
WR: Alliance of Free Peoples is in play. A company contains at least three characters with a mind higher than 6. One of those three characters has to be an Elf, one a Man and one a Dwarf. A company containing these characters has a Valiant Sword, successfully played at a non Haven site.

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Re: 01/2018 Hamburger Scenarios update

Post by Darksatin » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:25 pm

These major change proposals are submitted to your votes.
Vote here :viewtopic.php?f=66&t=3167&p=26001#p26001

You can vote until the end of this month (January 2018)
You can make comments in this thread.

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* You can win two different scenarios with one same deck (there are some possible scenarios). In this case you get the tournament points for both scenarios !
You can win two different scenarios with one same deck (there are some possible scenarios). In that case, you get only the tournament points for one scenario (the most difficult).

Argumentation : too many points are awarded by succeeding several scenarios. This can cause a distortion in the results of a tournament.

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* Difficulty rating modification :
12) The Daughters of Vaiya :
DR: No Wizard may be played. Only the following characters may be played : Annalena, Arinmir, Arwen, Eowyn, Galadriel, Galva, Ioreth, Peath, Vôteli, Vygavril. Only the following items may be played : Elf-stone, Emerald of Doriath, Emerald of the Mariner, Gems of Arda, Jewel of Beleriand, Necklace of Girion, Necklace of Silver and Pearls, Noldo Lantern, Phial of Galadriel, Star-glass, Torque of Hues.
WR: 5 characters are in play and each of them possesses an item. Nenseldë the Wingild, Mistress Lobelia or Goldberry is in play.

The difficulty rating changes, from Medium to Easy.

Argumentation :
this scenario is not very difficult to succeed. It is more difficult to score many marshalling points, but it is another problem.

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* Difficulty rating modification :
H) Lust For Gold :

DR: No Orc and Troll characters may be played (but you can play a Ringwraith).
WR: Four Dwarven characters, Petty-Dwarves and four Dwarven rings are in play.

The difficulty rating changes, from Medium to Difficult.

Argumentation : the conditions of this scenario seems more difficult than expected.

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* Difficulty rating modification :
A) They Ride Together :

DR: none.
WR: At least 6 Ringwraiths play together "Smoke on the Wind" and are afterwards in play.

The difficulty rating changes, from Difficult to Medium

Argumentation :
this scenario seems not very difficult.
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* Scenario modification :
4) The Seventh Palantir :
DR: none.
WR: The Ithil-stone is stored at Rivendell or Fate of the Ithil-stone is stored at a Haven.

Argumentation : there are 2 ways to succeed this scenario. One of them seems less difficult than the other. So, the proposal is to split this scenario into 2 different scenarios :

4) The Seventh Palantir : Difficult
DR : none.
WR: The Ithil-stone is stored at Rivendell

20) Fate of the Ithil Stone : Medium
DR: none.
WR: Fate of the Ithil-stone is stored at a Haven.

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Re: 01/2018 Hamburger Scenarios update

Post by Darksatin » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:39 am

A new proposal, made by Fangorn :
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A Tournament Points for several scenarios :
My opinion is rewarding both scenarios successfully played, to a maximum of the most TP possible, which is 7 (with a difficult scenario and winning due to MP)
With this rule TP will always be 7, except for 2 easy scenarios successfully played and losing due to MP
So finally as a simple rule :
A3 : you get 7 tournament points
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This proposal seems interesting, so I add it to the votes. You can change your vote if you have already voted.

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