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by Konrad Klar
Tue May 22, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

Thrall of the Voice has the phase restriction written in, so let's ignore that for now. A Chance Meeting and Open to the Summons have the wording "a _X_ may be played". But the difference you propose is that OttS is a permanent event instead of a short event, so that makes it less powerful? But per...
by Konrad Klar
Tue May 22, 2018 11:52 am
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Submission Rules - Please Read
Replies: 3
Views: 173

Re: Submission Rules - Please Read

Should not there be a DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION CHANGES?
Sometimes (often) authors of submissions accept suggested changes to their original proposals.
Voters should know that a version for which (or against which) they are voting is final.
by Konrad Klar
Tue May 22, 2018 10:56 am
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

Am I close with this statement: you think that only momentarily allowing an action to occur is for some reason more permissive than allowing the action to occur over an extended period of time? Is there something in any of the rulebooks that you can highlight as an inspiration for this notion? If t...
by Konrad Klar
Tue May 22, 2018 10:14 am
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: The White Tree
Replies: 14
Views: 200

Re: The White Tree

No. Version from Saruman challenge deck is free from such problem. It creates the action "discard" that has target - Sapling of the White Tree - and by general rules your resources cannot target an opponent's resources. In version from METW Unlimited Edition, and in version proposed by me, discardin...
by Konrad Klar
Mon May 21, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: The White Tree
Replies: 14
Views: 200

Re: The White Tree

This thread has been recreated after server failure. In original thread some discussants expressed opinion that they prefer discarding a Sapling of the White Tree as condition, not as main effect. In the version from Saruman challenge deck a discarding a Sapling of the White Tree is main effect. I c...
by Konrad Klar
Mon May 21, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Returned Beyond All Hope
Replies: 10
Views: 144

Re: Returned Beyond All Hope

Immediately when the card resolves. Once.
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 6:05 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

But now we're talking about immediate actions vs non-immediate; the discussion was about cards that create actions vs cards that do not. 1. If it is really not obvious: If action allowed by a card is immediate, then the card create the action. If action allowed by a card is not immediate, then the ...
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 5:35 pm
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Anti-One Ring hazards
Replies: 8
Views: 86

Re: Anti-One Ring hazards

The rule does not duplicate any condition written on any "influence" cards for agents. Therefore the rule is not descriptive. But you are right. "If you move The One Ring to Mount Doom and play certain cards-The One Ring is destroyed and you win." does not duplicate any condition written in texts of...
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

How is the difference between causing an action or not causing one determined, then? It is more difficult to determine than determining whether the word "green" is subject, or is modifier, or is adverbial in given sentence. It requires analyzing whether given phrase makes a sense in given function....
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 4:32 pm
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Anti-One Ring hazards
Replies: 8
Views: 86

Re: Anti-One Ring hazards

Bandobras Took wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 2:52 pm
Can I use Good Sense Revolts to make an influence check if I am not at the correct site according to this rule?
If target agent is not at the correct site then no.
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Rules Questions
Topic: Anti-One Ring hazards
Replies: 8
Views: 86

Re: Anti-One Ring hazards

But if The One Ring has been acquired in result of influence attempt or CvCC at Mount Doom, a moving company back and forth does not make (thematic) sense. In past I have not treated the text as rule, but as description. Similarly to: Any gold ring in one of your companies at Barad-dûr at the start ...
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

Konrad Klar wrote: ↑ 20 May 2018, 11:16 Theo wrote: ↑ 20 May 2018, 08:50 Except that it is: the "Bringing Characters Into Play" section. There is a rulebook exception to this section in the form of character influence attempts, which have a number of other stipulations. Just not true. If there is a...
by Konrad Klar
Sun May 20, 2018 10:16 am
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

I still didn't observe you mentioning whether or not you think Old Road should require the character making the influence attempt to tap. Good point. My proposal is now: Playable on a untapped character at a Haven [-me_fd-] during site phase. The character makes attempt to bring a faction into play...
by Konrad Klar
Sat May 19, 2018 5:42 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

Yes. Here, There, or Yonder taps character, and (if roll is high enough and appropriate ally is in player's hand) the ally is played under control of the character. The character does not play the ally and untapped site is tapped in result of the event, not in result of playing ally at the site.* Bo...
by Konrad Klar
Sat May 19, 2018 2:12 pm
Forum: Annual Rules Vote - Submissions
Topic: Old Road
Replies: 31
Views: 289

Re: Old Road

I do not think that the influence attempt takes a place anywhere.
Se also Roäc the Raven (CRF entry for it).

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